Official publication of the PACIFIC SOUTHWEST RAILWAY MUSEUM ASSOC.,Inc KAY, 1977 I»c. 135 Apli! m e e t i n g eijjyij by m e m b e r s It's a shame more of our members. didn1 t make it down to the House of Hospitality on April 29th, the night of our quarterly meeting. Il;e ^rogram wciG great and the treats were absolutely out-of-this-wcrld! following some very interesting and informative reports by President Kerr, Ken Helm, Larry iiose, Jim Lundquist, and others on the various Kuseun: activities in progress or recently completed, Mr. Harold Williams of the Y.'his- tle Stop gave us an excellent sampling of his 45 years of train photography in the West and elsewhere. Kick & Thelma Nichols brought down two huge con- tainers of homemade apple and citrus juice from their own orchard and a piti- ful of homemade apple crisp that really titillated the palate. The recent successful steam excursion behind the ailing 4449 netted r nice profit for the Museum, and participants reported the sold-out trip was worth every penny of the ticket price. One of the trip's main attractions, aside from the oil-burner up front, were the insane creatures behind the wheel of the oil burners motorcading the train on the nearby highways. Your editor got a first-hand glimpse of this motorized circus as one of the 30 million fans who followed the train from Bakersfield to L.A., from San Clemente to San Diego (at 4 a.m.), and still later from Riverside to Yuma. A guy could really get killed out there! A nice dination of a rare three-sided railroad tie was presented to the Museum by Mr. Frank Hansen of Spring Valley, who also donated a mounted coll- ection of some 200 tie date nails (see story elsewhere in this issue). Han- sen is a local authority on date nails and possesses one of the largest col- lections in the country. Master Mechanic Ken Helm presented a very interesting summary of recent restoration activity, one of the more interesting and re- warding Museum programs, climaxing it with a tape recording of our new 45- ton diesel being fired up for the first time since it arrived and probably for the first time in 10 years. In spite of this, it started up and purred like a kitten! The Museum thanks Chop and Ken, Jim and George, Thelma and Nick, Jo Pressnal and Harold Williams for contributing to a very enjoyable evening. Please plan to attend our next one in July and share with us some happy moments in the company of some pretty terrific people. JuJ.y is also our ann- ual nominations meeting for 1978 officers, and nominating ballots will be sent out with the June ̂ PSRMA SIYBN TIE KAIL COLLECTION The Museum was recently the benefactor of an extensive tie date nail collection put together over a period of years by one of the foremost nail collectors in the country. Frank Hansen, of Spring Valley, has very graciously donated a mounted collection of approximately 200 different tie nails valued at $1500. These nails were used until about 1969 by railroads throughout the country for determining the service life of wood crossties. The practice began in (cont'd on P. 3) No. 135 April meeting enjoyed by members } It's a shame more of our members.didn't make it down to the House of Nospitality on April 29th, the night of our quarterly mecting. The program was great and the treats were absolutely out-of-this-world! Following some very interesting and informative reports by President Kerr, Ken Helm, Larry xose, Jim Lundquist,. and others on the various Museum activities in progress or recently completed, Mr. Harold Williams of the Whis- tle Stop gave us an excellent sampling of his 45 years of train photogrephy in the West and elsewhere. Nick & Thelma Nichols brought down two huge con- tainers of homemade apple and citrus juice from their own orchard and a pzn- ful of homemade apple crisp that really titillated the palate. The recent successful steam excursion behind the ailing 4449 netted - nice profit for the Museum, and participants reported the sold-out trip was worth every penny of the ticket price. One of the trip's main attractions, aside from the oil-burner up front, were the insane creatures behind the wheel. of the oil burners motorcading the train on the nearby highways. Your editor got a first-hand glimpse of this motorized circus as one of the 30 million fans who followed the train from Bakersfield to L.A., from San Clemente to San Diego (at 4 a.m.), and still later from Riverside to Yuma. A guy could really get killed out there! A nice dination of a rare three-sided railroad tie was presented to the “Museum by Mr. Frank Hansen of Spring Valley, who also donated a mounted coll- ection of some 200 tie date nails (see story elsewhere in this issue). Han- sen is a local authority on date nails and possesses one of the largest col- lections in the country. Master Mechanic Ken Helm presented a very interesting summary of recent restoration activity, one of the more interesting and re- warding Museum programs, climaxing it with a tape recording of our new 45- ton diesel being fired up for the first time since it arrived and probably for the first time in 10 years. In spite of this, it started up and purred like a kitten! The Museum thanks Chop and Ken, Jim and George, Thelma and Nick, Jo Pressnal and Harold Williams for contributing to a very enjoyable evening. Please plan to attend our next one in July and share with us some happy moments in the company of some pretty terrific people. Jujy is also our ann- ual nominations meeting for 1978 officers, and nominating ballots will be sent out with the June xEPORT. PSMA GIVEN TIE NAIL COLLECTION The Museum was recently the benefactor of an extensive tie date nail collection put together over a period of years by one of the foremost nail collectors in the country. Frank Hansen, of Spring Valley, has very graciously donated a mounted collection of approximately 200 different tie nails valued at $1500. These . i 2 ¥ fea fi Beers ERS Behttce Pi he BP woba crossties. Dhe-practice Began dn 1900 (cont'd on P. 3) -2- Well, in spite of all my self-admonitions, I did it again! I forgot to change the month and issue num- ber on last month's REPORT masthead. So, instead of reading "April No. 1347 it read "Feb.-March No. 133". Please take your ball point and make the nec- essary correction. Sorry 'bout that! 0 O 0 0 0 0 Since I took over editorship of REPORT in March of 1975, there has never been a dearth of suitable material to print. In fact, there has always been much more than I could economically use each month. As a result, the surplus has backed up in my "To be used" box to the point where the dam is about to break. So, since this issue is to be my next-to-last, and since the final copy is already set in concrete, I felt it would be an appropriate time to attempt to catch up on some of this backlog. I hope each reader will find something of interest in the resulting potpourrie. Various parts to one of our two steam locomotives now stored at Perris, Calif, have mysteriously disappeared over the last few years, parts that are required for the eventual operation of this engine. The interesting thing is, the missing parts have little or no "collector's" value, being of value only as replacements for worn-out parts on a locomotive having identical appliances and one which is intended to be operated. The major missing items are those that would not show on a display locomotive and therefore would not be required to be in place for the engine to appear complete. We can only speculate as to the reason for their strange disappearance, but it is fervently hoped that the responsible party or parties, whomever they may be and for whatever reason they decided to transcend common ethics, have the decency and sense of moral obligation to return the missing parts, or at the very least to reimburse us an amount equal to their replacement value. The idea that someone, presumably a railroad "fan"and therefore interested in railroad preservation rather than destruction, would illegally remove parts from an acknowledged museum display is disgusting, and adversely affects the public image of fans in general, whether fans were actually the culprits or not. Had a nice chat with the charming wife of one of our hardworking Museum members at the General Meeting the other nite at the House of Hospitality (incidentally, where were you?). She was saying that one of the nicest things about PSRMA was the people involved. I can't agree with her more. Great people have made PSRMA what it is today, and hopefully the same class of people will shape its destiny tomorrow. It's no fault of the members that we don't yet have a permanent museum site. Personally, I'm proud to be associated with peo- ple like these. You should be, too. Get involved. Come out and meet these peo- ple first hand. You'll see what I mean. Besides, once you become involved, you might decide you like it! Speaking of involvement (and I'm sure it must sound like a broken record to some of you), I can't stress enough the importance of one of our members coming forth to take over responsibility for publishing our monthly newsletter REPORT. REPORT is about the only contact we have with a large percentage of our members who for some reason choose not to come to our quarterly meetings or involve themselves with any of our other ongoing functions. So it is a vital communication link that is required for the proper functioning of the 30-30-30-30-30-30 == Well, in spite of all my self-admonitions, I did it again! I forgot to change the month and issue nun- ber on last month's REPORT masthead. So, instead of reading "April No. 1349 it read "Feb.-March No. 133". Please take your ball point and make the nec- essary correction. Sorry ‘bout that! @@e@ee0o0Qq Since I took over editorship of REPORT in March of 1975, there has never been a dearth of suitable material to print. In fact, there has always been much more than I could economically use each month. As a result, the surplus has backed up in my "To be used" box to the point where the dam is about to break. So, since this issue is to be my next-to-last, and since the final copy is already set in concrete, I felt it would be an aprooerr e time to attempt to catch up on some of this backlog. I hope each reader will find something of interest in the resulting potpourrie. — @@eee00@0 Various parts to one of our two. steam locomotives now stored at Perris, Calif. have mysteriously disappeared over the last few years, parts that are required for the eventual operation of this engine. The interesting thing is, the missing parts have little or no "collector's" value, being of value only as replacements for worn-out parts on a locomotive having identical ee oueee and one which is intended to be operated. The major missing items are those . that would not show on a display locomotive and therefore would not be required to be in place for the engine to appear complete. We can only speculate as to the reason for their strange disappearance, but it is fervently hoped that the responsible party or parties, whomever they may be and for whatever reason ig they decided to transcend common ethics, have the decency and sense of moral ® obligation to return the missing parts, or at the very least to reimburse us an amount equal to their replacement value. The idea that someone, presumably a railroad "fan"and therefore interested in railroad preservation rather than destruction, would illegally remove parts from an acknowledged museum display is disgusting, and adversely affects the public image of fans in general, whether fans were actually the culprits or not. @@@eeeGde@@ Had a nice chat with the charming wife of one of our hardworking Museum members at the General Meeting the other nite at the Huuse of Hospitality (incidentally, where were ou?). She was saying that one of the nicest things about PSRMA was the people involved. I can't agree with her more. Great people have made PSRMA what s today, and hopefully the same class of people will shape its destiny tomorrow. It's no fault of the members that we don't yet have a permanent museum site. Personally, I'm proud to be associated with peo- ple like these. You should be, too. Get involved. Come out and meet these peo- ple first hand. You'll see what I mean. Besides, once you become involved, you might decide you like it! @@@eeeaeQ@ Speaking of involvement (and I'm sure it must sound like a broken record to some of you), I can't stress enough the importance of one of ouf members coming forth to take over responsibility for publishing our monthly newsletter REPORT, REPORT is about the only contact we have with a large percentage of our members who for some reason choose not to come to our quarterly meetings or involve themselves with any of our other ongoing functions. So it isa vital communication link that is required for the proper functioning of the Museum. saat ea +B 30-30-30-30-30-30 - -3- (cont'd from P. 1) and those first nails, with a "0" or "00" on the head, are quite rare and much sought by collectors. Your editor has several with the very rare "00" embossing, relics of the old Carson & Colorado narrow-gauge in Owens Valley. Mr. Hansen also gifted the Museum with a section of a unique 3-sided tie from the former Great Northern Ry., complete with a 1907 date nail embedded in the upper face. The Museum is very appreciative of Mr. Hansen1s thoughtful- ness and we extend to him a heartfelt "thank you" for a truly outstanding col- lection from the "golden age of railroading". THANKS TO "GOLDEN AGE" EXHIBIT STAFFERS by Jo Pressnail We have the nicest group of volunteers who give tirelessly of thier time and interest with good cheer to staff our grand old lady of Harbor Drive, the VICTORIA. From January thru March, we had the help of the following nice peo- ple: Cecil Badman Gladys Moore Carol Green Jim Cooley, Jr. John Pattison David Green Bernice Duckworth Pat & Dudley Smith Bob Nichols George Geyer B. V. Parks Jen Bassett Bill Hofer Anita Rhein Nick Nichols Frank Kearney Tanya Rose Donna Regan Carol Lande Steve Rosefeld Peggy Secor Jim Lundquist Gretchen & Perry Timmermans Ron Milot Ron Zeiss All great folks! If you would like the opportunity to introduce VICTORIA to many interest- ing visitors and potential members, please call me, Jo Pressnall, at 435-5022. We'll be glad to help you get started. It's really fun. It was my privilege to show the car to a group from Paradise Valley Hos- pital. The "oooh's" and "aaah's" heard as they passed through was a nice re- ward for my time. What a pleasant surprise I had in April when Nadine Bristol, wife of Santa Fe Mechanical chief Dean Bristol and new PSRMA member, called me and enthusiastically volunteered to help clean VICTORIA. Thank you, Nadine. Your call was the lift I needed. If anyone else cares to make a little old (edit- or's note: "old"?) lady happy, please call and let me know that you can staff, clean, or? The hardest part is picking up the phone. The rest is easy. Again, a hearty "thank you" to each of you who staffed this past quarter. SPEAKING OF STAFFERS; The group tours we provide at our Miramar Naval Air Station storage site are in desperate need of some assistance by more of our members. In cooperation with Miramarfs Public Affairs Office, PSRMA has opened up its rail display to organized groups for almost three years. Generally, the group contacts the Public Affairs Office to arrange a tour of the base, of which the railroad exhibit is a part, or sometimes a tour of the train only. The P.A.. office then gets in touch with Linda DiGlorgio, PSRMA's Miramar tour coordinator giving her the date and time of the tour and the approximate number of persons in the group. Linda than must seek out inter- ested Museum volunteers, generally only one, but sometimes two, to host the tour. The host generally opens up the equipment, guides the group through, provides information on the equipment and the Museum, and makes sure the group gets in and out of our rail cars and locomotives without mishap. Necessary information is provided to each host so that, regardless of how little the prospective host may know about the display or the Museum, he or she is able to conduct a tour with some degree of authority. It's fun, educational, and a big helping hand to the Museum. If you would J.lke to assist, call Linda on the Museum phone: 280-1781. You won't be sorry. =3e (cont'd from P. 1) and those first nails, with a "O" or "00" on the head, are quite rare and much sought by collectors. Your editor has several with the very rare "00" embossing, relics of the old Carson & Colorado narrow-gauge in Owens Valley. Mr. Hansen also gifted the Museum with a section of a unique 3-sided tie from the former Great Northern Ry., complete with a 1907 date nail embedded in the upper face. The Museum is very appreciative of Mr. Hansen's thoughtful- ness and we extend to him a heartfelt "thank you" for a truly outstanding col- lection from the "golden age of railroading". THANKS TO "GOLDEN AGE" EXHIBIT STAFFERS by Jo Pressnall We have the nicest group of volunteers who give tirelessly of thier time and interest with good cheer to staff our grand old lady of Harbor Drive, the VICTORIA. From January thru March, we had the help of the following nice peo- ple: Cecil Badman Gladys Moore _ Carol Green Jim Cooley, Jr. John Pattison David Green Bernice Duckworth Pat & Dudley Smith Bob Nichols George Geyer B. V. Parks Jen Bassett Bill Hofer Anita Rhein Nick Nichols Frank Kearney Tanya Rosé , ; Donna Regan Carol Lande Steve Rosefeld Peggy Secor Jim Lundquist Gretchen & Perry Timmermans Ron Milot Ron Zeiss All great folks! If you would like the opportunity to introduce VICTORIA to many interest- ing visitors and potential members, please call me, Jo Pressnall, at 435-5022. We'll be glad to help you get started. It's really fun. It was my privilege to show the car to a group from Paradise Valley Hos- pital. The "oooh's" and "aaah's" heard as they passed through was a nice re- ward for my time. What a pleasant surprise I had in April when Nadine Bristol, wife of Santa Fe Mechanical chief Dean Bristol and new PSRMA member, called me and enthusiastically volunteered to help clean VICTORIA. Thank you, Nadine. Your call was the lift I needed. If anyone else cares to make a little old (edit- or's note: "old"?) lady happy, please call and let me know that you can staff, clean, or? The hardest part is picking up the phone. The rest is easy. Again, a hearty "thank you" to each of you who staffed this past quarter. SPEAKING OF STAFFERS: The group tours we provide at our Miramar Naval Air Station storage site are in desperate need of some assistance by more of our members. In cooperation with Miramar's Public Affairs Office, PSRMA has opened up its rail display to organized groups for almost three years. Generally, the group contacts the Public Affairs Office to arrange a tour of the base, of which the railroad exhibit is a part, or sometimes a tour of the train only. The P.A. office then gets in touch with Linda DiGiorgio, PSRMA's Miramar tour coordinator giving her the date and time of the tour and the approximate number of persons in the group. Linda then must seek out inter- ested Museum volunteers, generally only one, but sometimes two, to host the tour. The host generally opens up the equipment, guides the group through, provides information on the equipment and the Museum, and makes sure the group gets in and out of our rail cars and locomotives without mishap. Necessary information is provided to each host so that, regardless of how little the prospective host may know about the display or the Museum, he or she is able to conduct a tour with some degree of authority. It's fun, educational, and a ke a pie hand to the Museum. If you would like to assist, call} Linda on the Museum phone: 280-1781. You won't be sorry. RESTORATION & MAINTENANCE :, 7/4.05 on shakedown run with Superintendent Morman Hill at the throttle locomotive has enough power to move the entire string of museum equipment at Mira- mar. This is great news for the restora- tion crew as they plan to sandblast coach #576 and some of^the freight equipment mAntlVl 'PVio or*!1"! r^i^^-*"-*- — - several car lengths apart for the work. With our own operational locomotive we can spot the equipment ourselves with- out having to pester the Navy to do it for us with their engine and crew. Progress on car #1509 has been steady. The galley window frames have been repaired by way of another fine welding job by Dick Mclntyre. The body work is about 95% com- plete and the car will be ready for a pri- mer coat in a few weeks. Meanwhile, at the other end of the museum string, Jim Lundquist and Larry Rose have been scraping rust and scale from the inside of the tender of the Shay. Dick Mclntyre again provided the welding service by cutting out rust damaged tender side plates and obtaining new steel plates for replacements. Aside from tender rust, the 1923 Lima product is in good shape. Museum mechanic Ken Helm has lubricated all cab components and the driving mechanism and has resilvered the smokebox. by Larry Rose FANS FIRE "PHANTOM" PSRMA's newly arrived diesel electric locomotive was fired up on the first push of the starter button last month. Dick Mclntyre and Arn Hunsberger hooked up three auto batteries, emptied a 50 gallon drum of diesel fuel into the tank of engine number 1 and after a little priming started it on the first try. Engine number 2 was tried but would not start. The trouble has been diagnosed as a blown head gasket and will be repaired soon. Even with only one engine going the little center cab t Dick Mcintyre shows off the 150 h.p. Cummings prime mover RESTORATION & MAINTENANCE by Larry Rose FANS FIRE "PHANTOM" PSRMA's newly arrived diesel electric locomotive was fired up on the first push of the starter button last month. Dick McIntyre and Arn Hunsberger hooked up three auto batteries, emptied a 50 gallon drum of diesel fuel into the tank of engine number 1 and after a little priming started it on the first try. Engine number 2 was tried but would not Start. The trouble has been diagnosed as a blown head gasket and will be repaired soon. “. a - Even with only one engine 47485 on shakedown run with Superintendent going the little center cab Norman Hill at the throttle locomotive has enough power to move the entire string of museum equipment at Mira- mar. This is great news for the restora- tion crew as they plan to sandblast coach #576 and some of the freight equipment next manth Tha anninmant --54- +- muveu several car lengths apart for the work. With our own operational locomotive we can spot the equipment ourselves with- out having to pester the Navy to do it for us with their engine and crew. Progress on car #1509 has been steady. The galley window frames have been repaired by way of another fine welding job by Dick McIntyre. The body work is about 95% com- plete and the car will be ready for a pri- mer coat in a few weeks, Meanwhile, at the other end of: the museum string, Jim Lundquist and Larry Rose have been scraping rust and scale from the inside of the tender of the Shay. Dick McIntyre again provided the welding service by cutting out rust damaged tender Side plates and obtaining new steel plates for replacements. Aside from tender rust, the 1923 Lima product is in good shape. Museum mechanic Ken Helm has lubricated all cab components and the driving mechanism and has resilvered the smokebox. GAs aks OUAnn OA Ann Dick McIntyre shows off the 150 h.p. Cummings prime mover -5- John "Nick" Nichols wet sands a body puttied window panel on 1509 The old steamer will be further spit- shined as other projects are completed and personnel become available. The restoration crew urges all members to ccme out and see how your antique rail equipment is being main- tained and repaired. A map has been included below to show you the way. You will need to show your car regis- tration and driver's license to the guard at the visitors gate and fill out the simple form for a pass that is good for all day. It takes only a -few minutes so come on out! There is something happening every Saturday unless there is a museum sponsored tour going on. (The restoration crew are all notorious train riding enthus- iasts. ) Helping out this month were Ken Helm, Norm Hill, "Nick" Nichols, Bert Straw, Jim Lundquist, Larry Rose, Dick Mclntyre, and good ol' Jack Linn. Dick Mclntyre cuts out rusted tender panels while Ken Helm and Bert Straw remove the rear sandbox on Shay #3 » The old steamer will be further spit- shined as other projects are completed and personnel become available. The restoration crew urges all members to come out and see how your antique rail equipment is being main- tained and repaired. A map has been included below to show you the way. You will need to show your car regis- tration and driver's license to the guard at the visitors gate and fill out the simple form for a pass that is good for all day. It takes only a -few minutes so come on out! There is something happening every Saturday unless there is a museum sponsored tour going on. (The restoration crew are all notorious train riding enthus- iasts.) Helping out this month were Ken Helm, Norm Hill, "Nick" Nichols, Bert Straw, Jim Lundquist, Larry Rose, Dick McIntyre, and good ol’ Jack Linn. John "Nick" Nichols wet sands a body puttied window panel on 1509 ! EAST GATE INRAIARBR WAY PARK HERE /AUS EU/A EQUIPAENT Y ! 4 “a ; Dick McIntyre cuts out rusted tender panels while Ken Helm and Bert Straw CLAIREMONT remove the rear sandbox on Shay #3 -6- U.P. 4-8-4 8444 has had a reprieve by the ' ICC, which has agreed to an extension of time for the big excursion engine's flues. A trip or two is expected from Denver thiŝ ^ summer. Ex-Texas & Pacific 2-10-4 610W used briefly to haul the Freedom Train in Texas last year, has been leased for two years to the Southern Ry., presumably for excursions. It handled a tonnage freight on one leg of its journey south. HTinTTltfTl TTTF 55̂ SS:̂ " Silverton train begins operations May 28th AAUUitU lilL with record crouds expected. Cumbres TURNTABLE & Tol"tec Scenic R.R. season due to start iUfiltlAfllriM June 11th with two round trips a week thru Oct. 9. April, 1977 issue of RAILROAD Magazine had not one but WO items about PSRMA. One dealt with the filming of the movie "MacArthur" using our rail collect- ion, and a comment about our storage track at Miramar NAS and our need for a permanent home. The other article advertised our popular Embarcadero exhibit downtown. Speaking of "Victoria", the plush car behind our Coos Bay steamer at the aforementioned exhibit: VICTORIA was originally the ROBERT PEARY, built by Pullman in 1927 as one of its "Famous Explorer" series, which included a car named ROALD AMUNDSEN. This car is now reported to be in McCormack Railroad Park, Scottsdale, Ariz. According to RAILROAD Magazine, former President Harry Truman campaigned in the car at one time, as Franklin D. Roosevelt had done with VICT- ORIA (nee PEARY) earlier. PSRMA member Bill Gibson was honored recently in RAILROAD Magazine with publication of his photo of Santa Fe steamers 3720 and 3756 doubleheading the Super Chief out of Syracuse, Kansas in a snowy 1948. — Interesting to note that ex-S.P. firefighting engine, old 4-6-0 2248, now in operation on the refurbished Texas State Railroad in East Texas, was stored in Taylor roundhouse at Glendale for years untilfinally sold to a Los Angeles con- tractor. While in the Contractor's storage yard, it toppled over on its side during the big quake up there several years ago. Only two ordained minis- ters in PSRMA (as far as we know), and BOTH are members of same church: Bob DiGiorgio, former Gen. Superintendent and Master Mechanic, and Art Dominy, who was instrumental in the Museum obtaining two 1910 truss-rod flat cars at Port Hueneme SeeBee base, where they are presently stored. C.E. "Ace" Wisch- stadt, a live-steam enthusiast who gave a very interesting program to our mem- bers last year about his hobby, was honored in January by the local Boy Scout organization for his exemplary service to Scouting. A retired electronics equip- ment repairman for the Navy, Ace is Assistant Council Commissioner for the handicapped, Wood Badge Coordinator, and District Camping Vice-Chairman for the El Camino District in Chula Vista. You are 'probably aware by now that Great Western Sugar's diminutive 0-4-0 saddletankers in Colorado are either already out of service or counting their days at most of GW's plants. One of the last non-tourist steam operations in the country. Word is that recent sale of the El Paso streetcar line may mean trolleys may run yet again along the Rio Grande. These are ex- San Diego P.C.C.'s. For you stamp freaks, the last American Railway Post Office service is apparantly the "New York & Washington R.P.C.". Colorado RR Museum reports seeing such a postmark dated Jan. 3. 1977. If you wish to charter the 31 gauge private car "General Palmer" on the Silverton Line this summer, it'll cost you $225 plus min. 18 first-class fares @ $10.25 ea., for a total of $409.50. Chartering the "Cinco Animas" or "Nomad" will cost $300 plus the fares. Private car travelling never was cheap! Trinity Valley RR Club, Fort Worth, had an interesting biographical sketch of one of their long-time members, Horace Windle, father to PSRMA member and Un- ion staff photog and columnist Jerry Windle. Jerry's great-grandfather oper- ated one of the early horse-drawn streetcars in Fort Worth. Horace and his brother put together an airplane from a kit in 1926. but the motorcycle-engine- powered machine didn't clear a barbed wire fence ana their flying days came to an end. Calif. Western RR proposes to install a wye at Northspur, MP 21.3 -6- . U.P. 4-8-4 8444 has had a reprieve by the’ ICC, which has agreed to an extension of time for the big excursion engine's flues. A trip or two is expected from Denver thi summer. ~--- Ex-Texas & Pacific 2-10-4 cid used briefly to haul the Freedom Train in = he Texas last year, has been leased for two Ce ee ee years to the Southern Ry., presumably for <2 : SS, Sa excursions. It handled a tonnage freight — Oily a Oe on one leg of its journey south. ---- AROUND THE ah Silverton train begins operations May 28th with record crouds expected. ---- Cumbres TURNTABLE & Toltec Scenic R.R. season due to start June 11th with two. round trips a week thru Oct. 9. ~=--=- April, 1977 issue of RAILROAD Magazine had not one but TWO items about PSRMA. One dealt with the filming of the movie "MacArthur" using our rail collect- ion, and a comment about our storage track at Miramar NAS and our need for a permanent home. The other article advertised our popular Embarcadero exhibit downtown. ---- Speaking of "Victoria", the plush car behind our Coos Bay steamer at the aforementioned exhibit: VICTORIA was originally the ROBERT PEARY, built by Pullman in 1927 as one of its "Famous Explorer" series, which included a car named ROALD AMUNDSEN. This car is now reported to be in McCormack Railroad Park, Scottsdale, Ariz. According to RAILROAD Magazine, former President Harry Truman campaigned in the car at one time, as Franklin D. Roosevelt had done with VICT- ORIA (nee PEARY) earlier. ---- PSRMA member Bill Gibson was honored recently in RAILROAD Magazine with publication of his photo of Santa Fe steamers 3720 and 3756 doubleheading the Super Chief out of Syracuse, Kansas in a snowy 1948. -- Interesting to note that ex-S.P. firefighting engine, old 4-6-0 2248, now in operation on the refurbished Texas State Railroad in East Texas, was stored in Taylor roundhouse at Glendale for years untilfinally sold to a Los Angeles con® tractor. While in the Contractor's storage yard, it toppled over on its side during the big quake up there several years ago. ---- Only two ordained minis- ters in PSRMA (as far as we know), and BOTH are members of same church: Bob DiGiorgio, former Gen. Superintendent and Master Mechanic, and Art Dominy, who was instrumental in the Museum obtaining two 1910 truss-rod flat cars at Port Hueneme SeeBee base, where they are presently stored. ---- C.E. "Ace" Wisch- stadt, a live-steam enthusiast who gave a very interesting program to our mem- bers last year about his hobby, was honored in Januarv by the local Boy Scout organization for his exemplary service to Scouting. A retired electronics equip- ment repairman for the Navy, Ace is Assistant Council Commissioner for the handicapped, Wood Badge Coordinator, and District Camping Vice-Chairman for the El Camino District in Chula Vista. ---- You are probably aware by now that Great Western Sugar's diminutive 0-4-0 saddletankers in Colorade are either already out of service or counting their days at most of GW's plants. One of the last non-tourist steam operations in the country. ---- Word is that recent sale of the El Paso streetcar line may mean trolleys may run yet again along the Rio Grande. These are ex- San Diego P.C.C.'s. ---- For you stamp freaks, the last American Railway Post Office service is apparantly the "New York & Washington A.P.0.". Colorado RR Museum reports seeing such a postmark dated Jan. 3. 1977. wean If you wish to charter the 3' gauge private car "General Palmer" on the Silverton Line this summer, it'll cost you $225 plus min. 18 first-class fares @ $10.25 ea., for a total of $409.50. Chartering the "Cinco Animas" or "Nomad" will cost $300 plus the fares. Private car travelling never was cheap! ---- Trinity Valley RR Club, Fort Worth, had an interesting biographical sketch of one of their long-time members, Horace Windle, father to PSRMA member and Un- ion staff photog and columnist Jerry Windle. Jerry's great-grandfather oper- @ ated one of the early horse-drawn streetcars in eee dec eee eh his : r put together an airplane from a kit in 1926, bu e motorcycle-engine- Pageren pocning didn't clear a barbed wire fence and their flying anys See to an end. ---- Calif. Western RR proposes to install a wye at Northspur, MP 21.3 -7- to allow trains to turn around at that point. This would enable the rail- road to operate short excursions from each end of the line to Korthspur and back which hopefully would attract more patrons than the longer present runs over entire line. The longer runs will still be in effect in addition to the "mini" trips. Ex- 3.P. 3-cylinder 4-10-2 5021 has been returned to its display berth at the L.A. County Fairgrounds, Pomona, after a long, unsuccess- ful attempt to operate it with mainline fan trips. Donated by S.P. to the Sou. Calif . Chapter of the u & LHS in the mid-19501s, it was moved to the San Bernardino shops of the Santa Fe on October 3, 1961 for restoration to operating condition. Problems with finding a western railroad willing to oper- ate the big engine, and possibly the knowledge of its track pounding qualit- ies, combined to frustrate both the R & LHS and all western steam fans. A cracked cylinder head was reportedly the last straw, Rumor has it that a cab- forward is being considered for restoration to revenue service, which means S.T. 2-3-8-4 4294, the sole remaining S.P. cab-forward engine, now on display on the station grounds in Sacramento along with Uo.1, the "C.P. Huntington". 4294 was built by Baldwin in 1944, the.last new steam engine acquired by S.P. Hope there's some truth to this rumor. Wanna be a steam locomotive engi- neer? For $40 an hour, you can rent a 1913 engine complete with fireman-instr- uctor, or $28 an hour for 1909 kettle, on the 90-mile Murtalbahn Amateurlok (Mur Valley Railroad) in centra}. Austria. Upon successful completion of your run, you receive a certificate, suitable for framing. This is no toy, but an active, modern freight railway. (Line forms at the rear!). To help allev- iate their crosstie problem, Sant Fe is experimenting with a "reconstituted" tie made from the ground-up remains of old, worn-out ties. They add resins to the chips and incorporate two steel reinforcing rods inside the tie, subjecting the whole mess to pressure in a 9" x 7" x 91 mold. Takes about three old ties to make two of the new ones. Pacific Railroad Society's newsletter "Wheel- clicks" gave our downtown train exhibit a nice little plug in last October's issue (I told you I've been storing up items, didn't I?) Steam locomotive and tender diagrams from the various component roads of the Union Pacific are available for purchase from the UP. They are reproduced from original tracings turned up in a search of the Company's archives. In sets of from 10 to 80 dia- grams, they sell from $5 to $12 per set. For a list, send a self-addressed stamped envelope to Mr. Barry B. Combs, Director of Public Relations, Union Pacific Railroad, 1416 Dodge St., Omaha, Nebraska 68179. Taco Bell's Gordon Bell, new owner of the narrow-gauge ex-West Side logging railroad at Tuolumne, Calif., has been in process of restoring the depot building at Tuo- lumne and rebuilding the line. Amtrak is disposing of over 80 retired rail cars at its Beech Grove, Illinois yards near Indianapolis. Call Thomas Shover at 317-269-5127 if you're in the market for a railroad car. The Urban Mass Transit Administration has a report for sale entitled "light âil Transit". £4.30 from Superintendent of Documents, U.S. Government Print- ing Office, Washington, D.C. 20402, stock Ko. 050-014-00010-0. Came across a photo the other day your editor took in the S.P. yards at Bakersfield, Calif, in September, 1957. Shows a retired ex-Daylight 4-8-4 without its Day- light livery in mothballs with the cab boarded up. The number under the cab window was "4449". Interested parties may still be able to obtain a cou- ple of reprints of rare steam locomotive diagram books. One is a 50-page Colo- rado & Southern book from 1903, 9 of.the diagrams are of narrow-gauge engines. The other book is from D& RGW and Rio Grande Southern thru 1937, 13 of which are narrow-gauge engines. Write Colorado Railroad Museum, Box 10, Golden, Colo. 80401, $15 each if still available. In January, Chula Vista's Rohr Industries sold its Rail Systems, Inc. subsidiary at Mira Loma, Calif. New owner is Rail Systems Incorporated Of Mira Loma. Rohr formed the companj in 1973 when a contract was received to refurbish more than 300 cars for Am- trak. In March, 1976, Mr. Raul Bravo, formerly Senior Industrial Designer for Rohr, accepted a position as Amtrak1s new Director of Design with offices in Washington. D.C.,He was,a.close associate of PSRMA member Tom Stephenson, who Was Lflstramentai In < KtSining tne flne Advanced Transportation Display donation from Rohr last year. Rand McNally, the map people, are general- o ="Jas to allow trains to turn around at that point. This would enable the rail- road to operate short excursions from each end of the line to Northspur and back which hopefully would attract more patrons than the longer present runs over entire line. The longer runs will still be in effect in addition to the "mini" trips. ---- Ex- S.P. 3-cylinder 4-10-2 5021 has been returned to its display berth at the L.A. County Fairgrounds, Pomona, after a long, unsuccess- ful attempt to operate it with mainline fan trips. Donated by S.P. to the Sou. Calif . Chapter of the k & LHS in the mid-1950's, it was moved to the San Bernardino shops of the Santa Fe on October 3, 1961 for restoration to operating condition. Problems with finding a western railroad willing to oper- ate the big engine, and possibly the knowledge of its track pounding qualit- ies, combined to frustrate both the R & LHS and all western steam fans. A cracked cylinder head was reportedly the last straw. tumor has it that a cab- forward is being considered for restoration to revenue service, which means S.D. 2-8-8-4 4294, the sole remaining S.P. cab-forward engine, now on display on the station grounds in Sacramento along with No.1, the "C.P. Huntington". 4294 was built by Baldwin in 1944, the.last new steam engine acquired by S.P. Hope there's some truth to this rumor. ---- Wanna be a steam locomotive engi- neer? For $40 an hour, you can rent a 1913 engine complete with fireman-instr- uctor, or $28 an hour for 1909 kettle, on the 90-mile Murtalbahn Amateurlok (Mur Valley Railroad) in centra} Austria. Upon successful completion of your run, you receive a certificate, suitable for framing. This is no toy, but an active, modern freight railway. (Line forms at the rear!). ---- To help allev- iate their crosstie problem, Sant Fe is experimenting with a "reconstituted" tie made from the ground-up remains of old, worn-out ties. They add resins to the chips and incorporate two steel reinforcing rods inside the tie, subjecting the whole mess to pressure in a 9" x 7" x 9' mold. Takes about three old ties to make two of the new ones. ---- Pacific Kailroad Society's newsletter "Wheel- clicks" gave our downtown train exhibit a nice little plug in last October's issue (I told you I've been storing up items, didn't I?) ---- Steam locomotive and tender diagrams from the various component roads of the Union Pacific are available for purchase from the UP. They are reproduced from original tracings turned up in a search of the Company's archives. In sets of from 10 to 80 dia- grams, they sell from $5 to $12 per set. For a list, send a self-addressed stamped envelope to Mr. Barry B. Combs, Director of Public Relations, Union Pacific Railroad, 1416 Dodge St., Omaha, Nebraska 68179. ---- Taco Bell's Gordon Bell, new owner of the narrow-gauge ex-West Side logging railroad at Tuolumne, Calif., has been in process of restoring the depot building at Tuo- lumne and rebuilding the line. ---- Amtrak is disposing of over 80 retired rail cars at its Beech Grove, Illinois yards near Indianapolis. Call Thomas Shover at 317-269-5127 if you're in the market for a railroad car. ---- The Urban Mass Transit Administration has a report for sale entitled "Light iail Transit". $4.30 from Superintendent of Documents, U.S. Government Print- ing Office, Washington, D.C. 20402, stock No. 050-014-00010-0. ---- Came across a photo the other day your editor took in the S.P. yards at Bakersfield, -Calif. in September, 1957. Shows a retired ex-Daylight 4-8-4 without its Day- light livery in mothballs with the cab boarded up. The number under the cab window was "4449", --~- Interested parties may still be able to obtain a cou- ple of reprints of rare steam locomotive diagram books. One is a 50-page Colo- rado & Southern book from 1903, 9 of the diagrams are of narrow-gauge engines. The other book is from D& RGW and Rio Grande Southern thru 1937, 13 of which are narrow-gauge engines. Write Colorado Kailroad Museum, Box 10, Golden, Colo. 80401, $15 each if still available. ---- In January, Chula Vista's Rohr Industries sold its Rail Systems, Inc. subsidiary at Mira Loma, Calif. New owner is Rail Systems Incorporated Of Mira Loma. Rohr formed the company in 1973 when a contract was received to refurbish more than 300 cars for Am- trak. ---- In March, 1976, Mr. Raul Bravo, formerly Senior Industrial Designer for Rohr, accepted a position as Amtrak's new Director of Design with offices in Washi He w Ose associate of PSRMA member Tom Stephenso who “@38* PAS amen tar "in 88181 8188 the fine Advanced Transportation D splay’ donation from Rohr last year. ~--- Rand McNally, the map people, are general- -8- ly associated with auto maps, but Mcftally and his partner Wm. H. Rand got th eir start in the railroad business. They both worked for the Chicago Tribune in 1856 when they bought the paper's job shop and began printing tickets, timetables, and folders for the railroads, which began expanding west of the Mississippi at that time. Later, they printed black & white outline maps of the lines for passengers. Later, realizing the longer trips developed a need for something to pass the time enroute, they entered the book publishing bus- iness with lurid-titled but strictly Victorian paperbacks. The elder McNally bought out Rand and died in 1904. Want a whistle just like the ones that ?raced steamers in years past? Mr. E. E. Steele, 313 W. Grand St., Longview,exas 75601 makes them to your spec's out of brass for about $225 each. The retired machinist's phone is 214-759-2155. The following bit of nonsense has a faint resemblance to baseball's famous "Who's on first?" routine accom- plished so eloquently by Abbott & Costello years ago. This one's entitled "The upper is lower" and originally appeared in the Chesapeake & Ohio Ry. Employees Magazine for Feb., 1921 and is here reproduced courtesy "The Clear- ance Card", newsletter of the Southwest Railroad Historical Society: "Let me have sleeping accomodations'on the train to Ottowa", I said to the man at the ticket window, who didn't seem at all concerned whether I took the trip or stayed at home. "For a single passenger?" he finally said. "No", I replied. "I'm married; but I'm not taking anybody with me. A single berth will answer." "Upper or lower?" he asked. "What's the difference?" I inquired. "A difference of 50 cents" came the answer. "Our prices to Ottowa are $1.50 and $2.00 You understand of course," explained the agent, "the lower is higher than the upper. The higher price is for the lower berth. If you want a lower, you'll havd to go higher. We sell the upper lower than the low- er. It didn't used to be so, but we found everybody wanted the lower. In other words, the higher the fewer." "Why do they all prefer the lower?" I broke in. "Cn account of its convenience," he replied. "Most persons don't like t the upper, although it's lower, on account of its being higher and because when you occupy an upper you have to get up to go to bed and then get down when you get up. I would advise you to take the lower, although it's higher than the upper, for the reason I have stated, the upper is lower than the lower because it is higher. You can have the lower if you pay higher, but if you are willing to go higher,it will be lower!" Then there's the following prayer offered by a newly-converted railroad man when the pastor of his church called on him for a public prayer, reproduced here from the October, 1906 issue of Railroad Man's Magazine: "Oh great and mighty Trainmaster in the sky, now that I have flagged Thee, lift up my feet from the road of life and plant them safely on the deck of the train of sal- vation. Let me use the safety lamp of prudence, make all couplings with the link of love, let my hand-lamp be the Bible, and keep all switches closed that lead off the main line into the sidings with blind ends. Have every semaphore white along the line of hope that I may make the run of life with- out stopping. Give me the Ten Commandments as a working card, and when I have finished the run on scheduled time and pulled into the terminal, may Thou, Superintendent of the Universe, say "Well done, good and faithful ser- vant; come into the general office to sign the payroll and receive your check for happiness." What do they feature on the new Amfleet Amcafe cars? Amsandwiches, of course! There is a growing suspicion that the rampaging deficits of the U.S. Poatal Service are due in a great measure to the inordinately high cost of transporting mail by truck. It is increasingly energy inefficient and provides no facility for sorting mail while it moves or for systematic collection or dispersion of mail as it progresses along its route. The result is dead time for sorting of mail, backhauling, and other inefficient means of distribution. Another rip-off which benefitted no one buttie nlgnway To Toy. f -IQ -8- . ly associated with auto maps, but McNally and his partner Wm. H. Rand got th ” os eir start in the railroad business. They both worked for the Chicago Tribune in 1856 when they bought the paper's job shop and began printing tickets, timetables, and folders for the railroads, which began expanding west of the Mississippi at that time. Later, they printed black & white outline maps of the lines for passengers. Later, realizing the longer trips developed a need for something to pass the time enroute, they entered the book publishing bus- iness with lurid-titled but strictly Victorian paperbacks. The elder McNally bought out Rand and died in 1904. ---- Want a whistle just like the ones that Baeres steamers in years past? Mr. E. E. Steele, 313 W. Grand St., Longview, exas 75601 makes them to your spec's out of brass for about $225 each. The retired machinist's phone is 214-759-2155. ---- The following bit of nonsense has a faint resemblance to baseball's famous "Who's on first?" routine accom- plished so eloquently by Abbott & Costello years ago. This one's entitled "The upper is lower" and originally appeared in the Chesapeake & Ohio Ry. Employees Magazine for Feb., 1921 and is here reproduced courtesy "The Clear- ance Card", newsletter of the Southwest Railroad Historical Society: "Let me have sleeping accomodations’ on the train to Ottowa", I said to the man at the ticket window, who didn't seem at all concerned whether I took the trip or stayed at home. "For a single passenger?" he finally said. "No", I replied. "I'm married; but I'm not taking anybody with me. A Single berth will answer." "Upper or lower?" he asked. "What's the difference?" I inquired. "A difference of 50 cents" came the answer. "Our prices to Ottowa are $1.50 and $2.00 You understand of course," explained the agent, "the lower is higher than the upper. The higher price is’ for the lower berth. If you want a lower, you'll havd to go higher. We sell the upper lower than the low- er. It didn't used to be so, but we found everybody wanted the lower. In other words, the higher the fewer.” © "Why do they all prefer the lower?" I broke in. "On account of its convenience," he replied. "Most persons don't like t the upper, although it's lower, on account of its being higher and because when you occupy an upper you have to get up to go to bed and then get down when you get up. I would advise you to take the lower, although it's higher than the upper, for the reason I have stated, the upper is lower than the lower because it is higher. You can have the lower if you pay higher, but if you are willing to go higher,it will be lower!" ------------~----~---------- Then there's the following prayer offered by a newly-converted railroad man when the pastor of his church called on him for a public prayer, reproduced here from the October, 1906 issue of Railroad Man's Magazine: "Oh great and mighty Trainmaster in the sky, now that I have flagged Thee, lift up my feet from the road of life and plant them safely on the deck of the train of sal- vation. Let me use the safety lamp of prudence, make all couplings with the link of love, let my hand-lamp be the Bible, and keep all switches closed that lead off the main line into the sidings with blind ends. Have every semaphore white along the line of hope that I may make the run of life with- out stopping. Give me the Ten Commandments as a working card, and when I have finished the run on scheduled time and pulled into the terminal, may Thou, Superintendent of the Universe, say "Well done, good and faithful ser- vant; come into the general office to sign the payroll and receive your check for happiness." ---- What do they feature on the new Amfleet Amcafe cars? Amsandwiches, of course! ---~ There is a growing suspicion that the rampaging deficits of the U.S. Poatal Service are due in a great measure to the inordinately high cost of transporting mail by truck. It is increasingly energy inefficient and provides no facility for sorting mail while it moves or for systematic collection or dispersion of mail as it progresses along its route. The result is dead time for sorting of mail, backhauling, and other tretiisneay neepy. of distribution. 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AumgehS SEFONA | meeT'3 Iweind ——-————— <9 -- SonesG Peon Cafe Eovvers Us se D — Beyaeug sour -a- sbuysoeg SPS Ql sat ag NOG 43 SN Eg-—-———- ~seNee Irs 52° PUN Zs6( ¥ Ict ON? 'L "Oey o2e47 worn ene cong =e young noo —— eepuren es om worer ec ceccocece swords NIG1--- --- 22-2 one - = eee F19@ OE, 4{ No.J li.45 C Ck..Ar. 5.00J r Ar. 4.Ill t :e ..Lv. 2.05 { iV. ,Lrippl€ Lv Victor. 40.3 Ar. . . Florence ..I VIA D. & R. G 73.2 ft:.. Pueblo... ft ,'.]:£» 117.6 Lv..Colo. Spr's« Ar. ll.l'5j ... 140.5 Lv. Palmer Lake Ar. lU.3HJ ... 192.8 Ar. . . . Denver . . .Lv. S.45J ... No. 10 . . . Ar.. Canon City Lv. 11.20ft ti.'.v!s 1.101 12.571 liuoM IU.UUE No. 2 4.T,:, i -10- RESEARCH A TREASURE HUNT During the many years your editor has been involved in railroad history research, it has never ceased to amaze me how really endless such an endeavor can be. A historian must always face this dilemma: when do you say "O.K. This is it. I'm not going any farther with the story. The basic information is here. It's time to quit and print it." One bit of new information almost always always leads to several more or raises new questions to be explored and dissected. Research for the June special issue was no exception. Newspaper accounts of the time provided no end of enticing little tidbits to tempt you to take a side track and see where it led. Or you notice a piece of data that you feel would make an interesting new research project of its own. For those who enjoy rail hi-story research as much as this writer, they will understand when I say that such research is much like that of the archeologist, slowly turning over each stone and analyzing what you find, forming conclusions based on observation. June 7: Lirecotr's meeting, SDT & S Bank, 7:30 (463-2276) June 1 1 ; Restoration & maintenance. Call ' 469-3064 for details. June, 1888; Coronado Belt Line began service. June 18; Restoration & maintenance. June 25; Restoration & maintenance. July 29 ; Quarterly general meeting, La Sala Room, House of Hospitality, Balboa Park. REPORT P.O. Box 12096 San Diego, CA 92112 PACIFIC SOUTHWEST RAILWAY MUSEUM - Mini- museum in antique private railway car and steam locomotive on the Embarcadero near the B Street Pier; open weekends 11 a.m. to 5 p.m. Special free weekday visits may be arranged, phose 280-1781. Return Postage Guaranteed Address Correction Requested Non-Profit Org U.S. POSTAGE P A I D La Mesa ,CA Permit No. 205 ~10- *% "| RESEARCH A TREASURE HUNT REPORT Newsletter of the Pacific Southwest Railway Museum Association, Inc. During the many years your editor has ven # P.O. Box 12096, San Diego, CA 92112 Richard E. Pennick, Editor James Lundquist, Circulation Published monthly by the Association. PSPHA is a Californie chartered non- profit, tax-exempt organization of persons who shere an interest in rail- road operations, travel, and history. Membership dues: $12.00 per year. Telephone: (714) 280-1781 Officers and Directors of PSRMA, Inc.: Richard =, Pennick ...dsoard chairman BH. C. Kerr, JS. ccvccvcccce president Larry L. Rose .ccccoee vice president James J, Lundquist ..eccees secretary Eric A. Sanders .....cccess treasurer Norman R. Hill ..ccccccccces director Barbarann Parker ...scsccscees director W. George Seyer weccsrescoces director Opinions expressed in unsigned articles are those of the editorial staff, and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of PSPMA, its officers or directors. Opinions in signed articles sre those of the author only. (GRaENE TE Wit TRAIN SERVICE BETWEEN | No. |No. 10 ° | 6.456 lAr.. Canon City .Lv.!11.208 .___. | 4.55 Stations on F. & C. C. R. R. and ©” a. G, R. R. Stap*- z ! ] iw eT ear ie a Tratn/Trarn TRaT Train RAIN No. 10, No.8 liz: -sUNS. No.1 No.7 8.0" Lv.-Cripple Ck..Ar. 5.00 --..-- 7.25 a . §.7'Lv..... Vietor...-Ar.| 4.05% ...-.--. | 6.55 ll wh, 40.3 Ar... Florence ..Lv.| 2.05% ------ | 4.10 124 © 458) 5.156 Lane OAR Sy nose 2227: 2.40 ae! 10g) O10 ~ ‘Ar. e.oe8 ens ie) Livy! 2258! 535 73.2 Ty .--Pueblo-.. Ar12.35— --, Pes 2.32 | 00 6.546 117.6 \Lv..Colo. Spr’gs-Ar.|11.25Q ..-.-. 12.57 3.306 | 5.106)! 7.54% 140.5 Ly. Palmer Lake Ar.\10.39§ ...... 12.00M a | 7,008 9.25% 192.8 /Ar.... Denver ...Lv.| 8.458 .----- O00 § 7 nae " REPORT P.O. Box 12096 PACIFIC SOUTHWEST RAILWAY MUSEUM — Mini- museum in antique private railway car and steam locomotive on the Embarcadero near the B Street Pier; open weekends 11 a.m. to 5 p.m. Special free weekday visits may be arranged, phose 280-1781. [Ne - Return Postage Guaranteed , Address Correction Requested San Diego, CA 92112 involved in railroad history research, it has never ceased to amaze me how really endless such an endeavor can be. A historian must always face this dilemma: when do you say "0.K. This is it. I'm not going any farther with the story. The basic information is here. It's time to quit and print it." One bit of new information almost always always leads to several more or raises new questions to be explored and dissected. Research for the June special issue was no exception. Newspaper accounts of the time provided no end of enticing little tidbits to tempt you to take a side track and see where it led. Or you notice a piece of data that you feel would make an interesting new research project of its own. For those who enjoy rail history research as much as this writer, they will understand when I say that such research is much like that of the archeologist, slowly turning over each stone and analyzing what you find, forming conclusions based on observation. June 7: June 11: Direcotr's meeting, SDT & S Bank, 7:30 (463-2276) Restoration & maintenance. 469-3064 for details. 6 June, 1888: Coronado Belt Line began service. June te: restoration & maintenance. Restoration & maintenance. Call une 25: July 29: Quarterly general meeting, La Sala Room, House of Hospitality, Balboa Park. Non-Profit Org U.S. POSTAGE PAID La Mesa ,CA Permit No. 205 @.

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