•A'WAJ HISTORICAL SOCIETY OF SAN DIEGO, INC© NEWSLETTER NUMBER TWENTY SIX,.- IXQTOTKZZTZO" NOVEMBER MEETING DATE©©©©©©©©© The regular monthly meeting of the RHSofSD will be held on the first Monday of November^ the second day of November© All member’s are urged to attend th® meeting* nominations for I960 officers* final plans for the “BIG” train trip to Perris* program and refreshments© If you have a member you would like to see voted into office* let the society know about it= the nominating committee is preparing names for the tons offices* if you wish to nominate a member, send in your nomination ■. aail ox-’ present it at the November meeting© MONDAY, jaopniBEP^ 3.,^ 1959©. ..our nominating committee iss Eric Sanders, H©mT Calkina’* Rex Cuttell, Georg". Axt and Fred Reif© See you at the November meeting and aboard our ‘’special” train© RAIL TRIP TO PERRIS©©o©©o© This is the big trip of the year for RHSofSD® the Perris trip has taken much planning and in order to make it a success we will need each and every member on board* Sunday* November 15th© Tell your friends0 photography fans© ??ailfans* model railroaders and Just anyone interested in a full day of rail reading, relaxation* scenery and a break from the Sunday highway traffic© m The date©©©©SUNDAY* NOVEMBER 15s 1959= the place©©©©©Santa Fe Depot in "an Diego © ©co ©destination & transportation- PERRIS * CALIFORNIA via the Santa Fc> Railway and our own "CALIFORNIA SOUTHERN FLYER" © A roundtrip of nearly IjOO miles of scenic railroading is in store for th® passengers on this special© The scenic depot at Perris9 the equipment of the Mt© Rubidoux Chapter of P©RoS©s the Orange Empire Trolley Museum full of* stx’eetoars* intar-urbans* work cars and our own RHSofSD #171© Plus®— a barbecue* the Horseless Carriage Club and anything else the excursion can come up with© The train will start from San Diego with additional stops for passengers at Dal Mar8 Oceanside* (San Clemente) Santa Ana and Riverside© Lets try for a real big turn out of ths membership for thia trip©©©©©©©© SUNDAY, NOVEMBER 15* 1959 "THE CALIFORNIA SOUTHERN FLYER" via SANTA FE RAILWAY© FIRST BIG TRIP NORTE©©©©©©©© To the best of our knowledge* this is ths first trip of thia type to be run northward from San Diego by rail© There have been small groups of rail fans on trips but none with a full size special train such as we will have on the 15th of November© Excursion Director Wally Duthie has put plenty of time and effort into the Perris trip© The results have come out as follows $ A special train* all our own* no added cars to the regular trains* no charter busses©0o©our own >ain© The consist would be complete if we could just have a 3700 or 2900 oa the head end* but that is impossible© However©©©©we have a modem diesel locomotive* (it too* will someday be history) an, open door baggage car* with ■oorg barred* heavy-weight coaches* the Del Mar Snack Car and a good old open. And observation car—with our own drum head* RAILWAY HISTORICAL SOCIETY' nF AN"d'IEGO - "CALIFORNIA SOUTHERN FLYER"© Be aboard on this trip©©©©© ; j,ta"r rc-r*.<*xp7’ p n*’’qp w* PJ.FGO *• TWC;*» ’»}' -]'.' e X a" w -^r’irrY^^ frKLh. OCTOBER-; MEETINGS NOTABLE POINTS0 o ooo oo □ W The October meeting was held on Mondayp Octo 5th in the Santa Fe depot© PreSo McCleary called the meeting to order at 8? 10 P0MoP vS.sitors introduced ware Mr© Wmo Stewax^tp Mr© Robert McGrew and Mrs© Elsa Haakeo It was moved & seconded that the reading of the minute© be dispensed withp due to full ccv® erage in the Newslwttero Fred Finke gave treasurers report: $561o09 bank balop $12©54 ‘feho kitty9 $380o89 in the restoration fund© Two copies of ’’Carrizo Gorge” film have been sold,, one still available at $25o00s approx 350 feet of 16mm film© Bill Morrison and Charles Gerdes discussed restoration problems on #54 o Trucks are available for oar at some rough estimate of $800o00^ we are still considering trucks© Bill Snyder asked for ideas on another hobby shoi^ by RHSofSD© Members decided on show in mid-January© Wally Duthie discussed the Nov© 15th trip to Perrisa we have the train., all we need is 400 paid fares© Discussion on old streetcar bodies here and there around town© Most feel we have plenty to keep us busy now© Howevers if something real good and worth® while shpws up,, the society should act to save or restore same© The nominating committee was picked® Eric SandersP HOM© Calkins, Rex Cuttell, George Axt and Fred Relf© Movies were shown by Corky & Barbaxea Thomson of the recent excursion on the Sierra Railroad, featuring 2-8-0 # 28 of the Sierra RRO Bill Snyder had hot chocolate and cookies for the refreshment hour© Meeting adjourned,* 10;30pmo NOVEMBER MEETINGg MONDAY* NOV© 2© 1959 ® 8s00 P©M©., Santa Fo depots San Dieg~ THE NEWSIETTER9 Official publication of tha RAILWAY HISTORICAL SOCIETY OF SAN DIEGO, INCo« PoOo BOX 9351, SAN DIEGO 9. CALIFORNIAo Barbara & Corky Thomson, Editors Published by the Pacific Beach Model Railroaders Club, Inc© Duplicating Gqo W0L<, '’Mac” McCleary => Presiaent Jack Stodslle ° 1st vice® Pre aidant CoTo ’ToBBy* Mann •= 2nd Vice-President Bill Snyder <= 3rd Vice-President Fred Finke => Treasurer Wally Duthie => Excursion Director(ala Baja-Califo) BASfeara Thomson = Secretary SOLO ’Corky,n Thomson = Corresponding Secretary Richard Vo Dodge - Historian!Librarian) Vernon 0o ’Williams = Librarian Eric Sanders -= Editor^ DISPATCHER Board of Directors:? Roland Anderson^ Jerry Lee Pecht, Robert Henkelo Writ wdwshW is^ojrffFw uxiKEg i9&b sven” a ■fais&ES“iOTr,“"a' Welcome to new member Dale Pyle of 3683 Albatross StO8 San Diego 3a Calif0 Mr„ Pyle works for the Park & Recreation Dsptoa is a member of the San Diego Model Railroad Club in Balboa Park9 is rerjf much interested in railroading both large and smallo WELCOME TO THE SOCIETY TO DALE PYLEO If you are interested in good reading each month??? We hone you enjoy the newsletter^ we realize we make many mistakes but this 13 only natiwal as the paper is sore ox thrown together at the last minute each month© Please excuse occasional mistakes or when we forget to mention something important,, wo try to keep you posted as best we cano Have you read any of the California Southern Express Issues? The Mto Rubid Ci.apc&r of she Pacific Railroad Society^, Inco puts out a real nice monthly bulletin© You don°t have to belong to P©R©S© to receive the papas?s just send a collar to them at 180 CJ,J St©<> San Bex?n.ardlno for a 1 year subscription© RAILWAY HISTORICAL SOCIETY OF SAW DIEGO„ T.»Co ■ ■ :•? YHMLSK TW?:Y?Y S - - - - •------ t - . — ■ v’r"•*'*-- • *’•-/» -- -T " • ' ’ ’ ' " *..... t. ’ *-• £t ' " *• 4» ii b u x’ j. L K u Jo c. J . ■ / L._L,____ „. ■. - txi -----*■......—----------- ---------- --------- ffWO EASTERN LINES TO MERGE©*©©©©©© P The newly-approved merger of the Norfolk & Western and Virginian RRns- the first such action by the Interstae Commerce Commission in modern times® will probably become effective Dec* 1st© The two lines parallel each other for 350 miles between the W* Virginia- Virginia border’ and Norfolk# Va* Both railroads said the merger was needed for their survival© Also being considered for meroger- Erie and Lackawana© LOW GOST SLEEPERS©*©*©©© Bo & 0© RR and Missouri Pacific will introduce low cost sleeper service between th© east coast and San Antonio sometime this month© Several eastern and mid-western roads ar© now offering low cost sZwepers# new budget type meals# as a drawing card for new passenger business* There is a very interesting article in the Sat* Eve* Post on the nations railroad passenger business., low fares# new sleepers^ dining ears* THREE NARROW GAUGE SHAYS*©o©*** West Side Lumber is operating #8# 9 & 10 daily with three schedules in each direction* Trains can be seen at Tuolumne or out onthe line* LOW NOSE JEEPSooooooSoPo has received some of the low profile EMD hood units similar to those on the Santa Fe© Locomotives seen in L*A© cere the regular 6P-9 type# four wheel truck# not the big SD-21j as on Santa Fe* Painted a bright red on nose# grey body0ooooo©oSoP* coaches on th® San Francisco com- muter run are being refinished grep1# with no stripeSo<>*o*©oPoEo PCC cars In ■L*A0 have been sold# 28 of th© streamlined cars going to Buenos Aires© ©*©-.* "*?* steam power back in service for stationary boiler work at Salinas wh^n canning company boiler blo?w up in August* #2582 and 2836 both 2-8-0°& were brought out of storage for steam service*©©©©©©©the S*?o roundhouse at San® ramento is being torn down0ooooooW0Po donated 0-6-0 #161| to Oroville©o***© SoPo donated 1771 2-6-0 to Placerville©oooooGoN© ended service on th© train ?,Cascadian!l between Seattle and Spokane oxi Aug© X5 due to switch in mail service to highway carriers©ooooooomany of the semi-ctreamlined Cotton Bolt coaches are showing up on S0P0 trains here in California# whon passenger service is abandoned on the StL&SW all cars will probably be put on SoPoooo© Southwest Lumber* Mills at Flagstaff# Arizona retired mallet # 12 2-6-6-2T# ex-Arcata & Mad River #12# it may' go on display at county fai.rOo©o© ©W©P© #9/.’- h=o6-0 typw vjas in service movie work on the S©?© Napa valley branch# cars were letteered Watertown & Eastern# the same cars were used on recent Sierra excursion©ooooooCalifornia Western ’’skunk" damaged in collis&on with truck# may cause it to be retired©OOooo©Peninsular Railway ©ar found near San Jose# has been saved by San Jos© merchant# the ©ar is parked about a mile south of the Santa Clara County Fairgrounds on old U©S© lOlo©*©©©©©©Santa Fe ha& order-’ ed CTC equip© for 6$ miles of track between Barstow and Mojave©oooothe three SoP© diesels that dived into the Napa River recently# 5260# li904 & £261 have boon raised by floating cranes# two will be repaired but one is badly damaged from the other two falling on ^©©©©©©trains in movies depto: you can see a little rail action in "Ask Any Girl”# good eastex^n commuter setting at the beginning——then, a big S©P© g©ep gets in the act with SOF© peninsula po?l coaches (supposedly running to Connect lout New York Central diesela# the ^Twentieth Century and th© Hudson River# all very nice in ’’North By Northwest”.-, Rjhen it winds up with what seems to be S©P© brigfet red nosed diesel on the Lark# oh well# they are trains anyway©©©©o©steam power in ”It Happened to Jane’L a weary old Pacific doing th© honors© t , 0 .. ...uanc/ # o (news from here & there and th© Western Railroader©) RA HWAY HISTORICAL JOG STY P RHSofSD BADGES ARE NOW READY© o© ©o©> WANT TO HELP ADVERTISE THE SOCIETY? p? BUZ A^BAD-ls© last been delivered^ white background with bright ped .UZ the center (c3.ear plastic opening) for ycur name© Badges Lots all wear a badge on tbtf Perrin trip©©©© badges the next meeting® MONDAYp NOVEMBER 2nd® BY’ MAIL FROM TH.H ox* on the train during the Perria trip© Price of ■ financial dept© can see fit to sell them for loin:© cm ■ts> «sia «£?> crt. <~ve •?» c~c? t*r?> cs? »=:» •—■“• ex? « •.? ■C'» PERRIS TRIPooooo Members going on the ®srri£. rai’J . ?:l'. g< fare,, this is for the full paid me Giber only to good friend Wally Duthle© The coiit cf thl; tri); do •■'■ :• ■••■ mass reduced fare tickets© Ascc.r’f to -I. .1; .. :< .• Society gets the reduced rato9 Z-& S list$ fare is $9 ©50 for non^meoA;.ers\ .;?> I.-? Gni.A.:- iu0 RAIL TRIPS©oooo©OCT© 21^25^ P©C©C c /A/.,. Sierra RR through the historic mother ;/r-y- Ih-ai' 10:00 AoMo both days^ returning tc Oakd ,-■•-. .■ •• ... , NOV© 8P PoRoSo trip to San D:logc v?c F-• , '/AV; Ab NOV© 15th e RHSofSD trip to Poinh) from /’■.?• F.?? "* ■ turn at 8g00 P©M© (stops at s•:-■••: • :?a.l ,<*?••■ . 3: Y;; BOV© 29© Golden West trip to Lk.-’ ..r/. :.••.<-■■ ••/.',■' .-./, ; LATE FEB© I960® or RHSoXSD . • th. ; •- ; of Maxicall to Riito© (Charter bu^sera to c X x: • ■ . >. ' BIG TIME ON THE WILDCAT RRooooooo Central ®oast Railway G2ub h^d £■ f.;c^Q • 18 inch gauge oteam railroad ir.- Lo^ Gctc^© tt.'ii 30 • the late afternoon and aftor dar< of ^'^.q hlld^at for beans and movieso GOOD BOOKS 3 RECORDS© o o © o © © There is a wonderful thing happening wg ha*‘7 ul steam locomotives© BOOKS©oo©REC0SDIaIGSoo©o2 ..’. -. the sound and sight of stea& powoi? almo;::•■; ecnipletoly view J, many new books and sound rec or da hit th^ mt.rk- The latestp ’’Steanus Finest Hc.-vrs? is a-real an Thia is a good coverage) of modern steam power and :ls ?3®?l photos and action shots of same locomotives©c.©©©it is s. ; fan and the reading Is good toop pictures ai’c excellent© Just before thatc9 another good one fro&i Superior 5 n one for th© historically mS.nded railfail., 'Pacific Slo-e some dandy.= never before published pictures of the old t coast., a good follow up on 5fThi^ Wai RaHj^oading^ by the Steam sound records are popping out toop and r-jany g moat are wox-th having l.f you liks that sort of thing9 so Not trying to give him a spacial plug© ©©©BUT9 our ? owner of the thistle Stop at 3839 Slath Ave© h©ro in Sau all these good booksfmany not ^evora. :i6PdingSo © © ©check with Bill fox railroad books ? Ti-'T.-.-'Ttr.r:0 type) for OPERATION at Perris on the old California Southern right of way© We will ye© tBat everyone gets a brochure.* ni@e full page picture of the 1765©00©send donations to the chapter at 180 °J° StG» San Bernardino, Calif© (Lifetime pass for $10 or more^ trip pa&a for $1 or more©) NICE ARTICLE FROM THE DISPATCHER IN POR©S© WHEEL CLICKS©©©000 Thanks to neighbor P©R©So for a. much needed plug on our Perris trip in their October 1959 issue of Wheel Clicks© SANTA FEooooootbe new 900 clatw diesels av-e coming out with a large "SANTA printed on sides©©o©©©©©new paint scheme on reefers and box cars too© (Exhausts from San Berdoo->Gajrney UNION PACIFIC©©co©the rumor of scrapping 1'000 olag-& "Big Boys5’ is false ,9 al <. are $till in one pie@ef, a few need annual and tires or lagging.? 15 are stored serviceable and ready to roll at a moments notdce© (Garner) I960 CALENDERS©©o©©have you ordered ymiF PoR©So railroad calender??? They are available from Mt© Rubidoux Chapter or direst from Pacific Railroad Society© OPERATION EMERALD© © © © oTho;se characters up a<- Pez-rls* have done it again- -—- b : have purchased one of the last trams in service on the Hill of Howth ru.10 from Dublin^ Ireland© The Orange Smpive Trolley Museum will have a bit of the Auld Sod^ swa and they will© The oars were saved for Just such a purpose 9 but who ever thought one would be saved at Perris? Ireland- yas©o©ocbut Perj?l^^and the ORANGE Empire Traction Coo$ that orange wehfc over big in Ireland© They oan now use a bit of the GREEN$ to help pay for shipping the tram© PoE© (MoToAo) WATTS LINE TO GO©o©o©barring some last minute repi’ievo<» the Watte line will be disposed of on Nov© 2nd® the 0©E©T© hopes to save one c-<4 the few remaining ©enter door Hollywood ©ar8,; estimated ©ost :1a $600®800r plus $200 shipping ©harges to PerriSooooc©donate if you can-, large omalv© Orange Empire Trolley Museum* Po0G Box 501$ Perrisv California KRUSHCHEV RIDES THE DAXLIGHT©© © ©©very interesting story in the October of California Southern Express^ (Mt© Rubidovix) tells of soma of the proK^uu-. axid situations when moving Mr© K to San Praneisoo on 2®99 of the SoPo Also 8 very good eye witness story of the "Cariboo Country Special”© REMEMBER© ©o©o ©OUR TRIP*, SUNDAY>> NOV© 15th? get your tickets at Santa Fe depa: in San Diego or write Wally Duthiey 228 West Washington Blvd©^ San Diego© HAVE YOU HELPED SAVE A KEY UNIT???? one is at PerriSj, but there &til.L the problem and expense of bringing the other unit to Perris©©©©©send any donations possible to KEY ROUTE RAILWAY ASSOCIATION» 2?16 West FIFTH STREET, BERNARDINO^ CALIF© (the C'oE©To unit Is at Perris* bring the othex6 unD :c Parris. XoRcRoA© is a group of fans from Mt© Rubidoux Chaptex*) ©I? m®F M», k proudly presents BY RAIL TO PERRIS CALIFORNIA ON THE "CALIFORNIA SOUTHERN FLYER:". . .VIA SANTA FE ALL THE WAY. A special Santa Fe Excursion train will operate from San Diego to Perris, California, on SUNDAY, NOVEMBER 15, 1959. Photographers, railroad enthusiasts, picnicers, sightseers. . . are all invited and especially welcome aboard by the RAILWAY HISTORICAL SOCIETY. JUST THINK. . . no traffic problems. . . over 360 miles of scenic countryside away from gas-clogged freeways. . . genuine old-time Barbeque at Perris. . . horseless carriage club show. . .first view of new Rail Museum to be largest in the West. An all day outing doing the unusual. . . Take the kids and enjoy a real train, especially the open-end observation car (one of the last MARzSW FIELD COR.C7N A EL TO^RO PERRIS OCEAM$lDE MIRAMAR SAN V\GGO PEL ’ MAR? CAP**; /orange \ $AUTA AMA AR. LI \ This will be "OUR" train, consisting of the following: Open-door baggage car J (with doors properly protected against anyone falling out), heavy-weight ) coaches, Del Mar Snack Car and a good old OPEN-END OBSERVATION CAR! ! KAMO Why a visit to Perris? ? (1) It is a very scenic trip up the Coast on the Santa Fe Surf Line. . (2) We will operate off the regular line at Orange, on the oniy iine< . , (3) Up beautiful Santa Ana Canyon on the Santa Fe line between Fullerton and San Bernardino. . (4) Up the freight only branch to Hemet as far as Perris, including Box Canyon Grade. . . (5) OUR DESTINATION, Perris, here you will visit the Orange Empire Traction Museum and the museum site of the Mt. Rubidoux Chapter of the Pacific Railroad Society. There are about 30 old streetcars and heavy inter-urban cars on display, in operating condition! There is a wealth of something "different" for the camera bug. The old Perris depot is a worthy subject for the camera, the Horseless Carriage Club of San Diego and Newport Beach will make an appearance with a number of their old autos, and there will be a big "Old Time" barbeque for those that wish it. CLIMB ABOARD the "California Southern Flyer" for a trip over four historic rail lines and a swell day of doing something just a little bit different. RIVERSIDE For the convenience of those who reside in communities NORTH of San Diego, stops will f be made at DEL MAR, OCEANSIDE, SAN CLEMENTE, SANTA ANA and RIVERSIDE, Q-S per the following schedule: Reg. Fare Half Fare Member Fare Depart: San Diego 7:00 AM $9. 50 $4. 75 $9. 00 Del Mar 7:25 ” 8. 30 4. 15 7. 70 Oceanside 7:45 ” 7. 35 3. 70 6. 85 San Clemente 8:45 ” 6. 25 3. 15 5. 75 Santa Ana 9:15 " 4. 75 2. 40 4. 30 Riverside 11:25 " 2. 50 1. 25 2. 00 Arrive: Perris 12:30 PM Depart: Perris 3:30 PM (The return trip will be a high-speed Arrive: San Diego 8:00 PM run, stopping only to allow passengers to detrain at their respective stations. ) Note: Half fare will be paid for children under 12. Members must show RHS of SD card in order to obtain member fare, which does not apply to r elatives or friends. FOR RANCH STYLE BEEF BARBEQUE - add $2. 25 for adults, $1. 25 for half fares. This feature is optional, but is for the combined benefit of the Nuevo Volunteer Fire Department and the Orange Empire Traction Museum, which is a non-profit, spare-time organization devoted to the preservation and operation of electric railway equipment (trolleys and streetcars TICKETS may be purchased at the Santa Fe Depot Ticket Office in San Diego between the hours of 6:00 AM and 10:00 PM. Mail orders may be sent to Wally Duthie, Excursion Director, 228 W. Washington St. , San Diego 3, Calif. Make checks or money orders payable to the RAILWAY HISTORICAL SOCIETY OF SAN DIEGO, and be sure to enclose a stamped, self-addressed envelope. Tickets purchased or ordered after MIDNIGHT, Nov. 10, will be subject to a $1. 00 additional charge. _________________________________ (Tear off and mail)_______________ ________________________________ Train B-B-Que Name: Number of tickets: Member Reg. Address:Half Will board train at: ( Total amt. enclosed

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