?????? RHSofSD MEETING— RAILWAY HISTORICAL SOCIETY of SAN DIEGO* Inc* « N E W S LbTt E R ’ # 5-1960^' The Mount Rubidoux. Chapter of the- Pacific Railroad Society hag been. sn a fund raising project to pureh&®£. the Stufehern Pacific 2«6-Q # !f65o Accord ing ta the chapter* fwftd® have been a ! ‘Little $low coming in but tho project is still OHo i In the meanwhile * it is reported the S0Po sold the 1765 to National Metals for scrap without saying a word to the i Mto Rubidoux groupo At la^t report the 1765 had not been cut up and the locomotive could still be purchased* from National Metals’ in® ^tead of foraer owner* SOPO Co© It la possible the Chapter will be able to purchase the locomotive for a lower price then originally quoted by the Southern Pacific* if this happing* the 1765 is just that mfeh cl^or to the day it again may see operat&oru The Chapter hopes t@ save the 2-6-9 steamer for use at Perris© It will take many more ten dollar donations so see the project completed© If you wish to help9 send a dollar* a five or a ten toj th© Chapter© A ten dollar donation will} bring you a nice Lifetime pass* a one ; dollar or more donation will bring you si Trip pass© Write to Mto Rubidoux Chapter* PoR©S©* 186 MQ Street* San Bernardino* California for more infor mation on the 1765 project* s@nd y®ur donations to the game address© were on the roll on ~ r -= » •jhur^day* April Ujth when two extra sections of th© .regular "San Diegan" brought 1*000 school kids from Los Angeles to visit th© famous San Diego soo© The trains returned to LOAO as felons of #7? leaving at l| :00PM* second ? #77 departed at Lj:l> and third #77 at 1 4-25o All three sections mad© meet;-; with southbound #7^ arriving at 5?15pra©* ?lve trains ever the Sorrento hill in, ; J. e 3 s th en an h our 8 8 BY MEETING? MQNDAY^J^ '^.J^2.-. ■ 8s00 PoMo IN THE SANTA PA STATION. DOWNTOWN SAN DIEGO© (Safety PROGRAM Our new 3rd 7o?op Erl^ Sanders announce5: the first of a aeries of special pro gram® for oup monthly meetings: I lZ p/zes£^ra | ,s"fh& of : « A talk ©n st^ae&cars ••'■ > Xise0m©fcS,vas wi'feh saLor slW&Oo 1 Refreshments will be served,, ; | REMEMBERS M0NIMp MAY 2nd, 8:00 F.-A , ? Upsfeairs in th-s Safety Rse . ’ | ©f th® Santa Fa d^-oot0 MEMBERS ARE URGED TO BRING GUESTS . . Csmiag at fwturs meetings; Jw meeting will f®atw?e a talk ?■ U’?.l©n. Pa@ifie District Agento August will ha^e n’embo?.* Jas^ry Mac- Mullen and a talk and slide shot# ©n "Inland Steamers"o SANTA PE TRAIN SCHEDULES Changes fcak fc2=ir^i=xs=;^Xa.-3.vxzjCK:a5=iix>.==-^ai^wa=rsra«sxxiixs»=-T==-^33^-a: —a • - '•> .-•axfeet on Sunday* April 21}th for Daylight Saving Time* the following are given Day light Saving time* net Pacific Stan~ dax3d Times TRAIN #?0-7?45-am.A Zf #7l|-2:30pra, #?6«5’U5pm? #?8-12?45^mo (all above are arrivals at San Diego) TRAIN #71~6:15ar^ #73«8:30am. O5-X2t.5S' pm* #7l’M| :30pm* #7%7:00pm© (all above are departure a from SODO} DEL MAR WORK DATE: Sunday... Rth 9 3 00AM to IjsOOPM SoD N E W S L E T T E R«fcr73^7.'Lkr;- *rr.-jr..".z . Barbara 3c Corky Thomson©oo o©Editors to 320b. McGraw Street-^ May 2n I960 1st®Vie© 2nd~Vice 3rd®Via© Railway Historical Society of San Diego•, Incorporv Post Office Box 9351 a San. Diego0 9< California© items 17D California (BR~3^5081) RAILWAY HISTORICAL SOCIETY o RAGE TWO ^.be^shlp includes a!5 publication ap the monthly NEWSLETTER, and all issues the DISPATCHER© Meetings are held on the let Monday of each month in the Santa Fe depot in San Dieg© at 6:0^PM© Send news San Diego on or before the 20th of eash PRESIDENT Prw1 dent President President TREASURER SECRETARY Secretary or Historian Librarian BOARD OF DIRECTORS Thomson. Cor NEXT MEETING DATES Mondayr . nBring a friend to tho tis?,g“ W’$ also have a nice letter from Jim Walker» Secretary of 0oEoTO£) thanking the R3H0S0 ©f SoDo for the donatio to 0 o ■& O V Q Charles "Tommy” Mann John B© Stodelie Rex Cuttell Eric Sanders Fred Ro Finke Z-irSo Barbara J© Seeth "Corky" Thomson Wally Duthie Excursion Dire^ Richard E© Pennick V 3 mon 0 o W111lams LOW© "Mae” McCleary Jerry Lea Pecht Harold Dow©11 H.0H0S0 of SoDo "DISPATCHER” available to non ^members at $lo00 per year© ERIC SANDERS, Editor ’7 861 N orwa 1 Ave © # La Ma s a 0 a i. 1 f orr 1 a R o H o b o of Me mbe rsh 1 p 5. n the R © H © S © ©f S o D © r - ns ; from March 1st t© March 1st* dues are j payable from Dec© 31st to March 1st© Members joining after Oct© 31st will •- be carried for the full following year© removed from the old siding at Imperial Beach has all been delivered to fche Perris site of OoEoTo streetcar operations© Fs.rral raiX removal was completed on Apr!’ 2 &. 3 by 0©EoT© work crews© A letter of thanks has been, received from the OoEoTo for dur help In Moating the .call and cm- help In removing it© Our help was small bv;< ^every little bit addt? to the final, completion of the job Many thanks to V©0© Williams and Lyle Judd, for their help on. the final waek=> end of rail removal© RoHoS© of SoDo0 Ina© OFFICERS for >9o0 WORK PARTY., DEL «V.R„ SUM"' y F,'-'?. N £ W S L L T T E R # 5-1^ Tram #2 of the Hill ...... t f jjowfc^ 2.ine near DublinP Ireland has been acquired preservation by the Orange Empire Tro’xlc Museum at ParrisP Calif© This is an ©per isop double deck tramoar& At will be a rare aright to see^ S0~ send a dollar lor two donation: Orange Empire Trolley ;Musemg> P©0« Box 5OL'3 Perris, Califo loHoSa of SoDojjTnc© Membership Duer, ar^j $2©£0 per yoaro (Family membership is ;• S3o$0 per yoars on® member with voting ; privileges $ publicatiom^ eto©) Junior members under 18 yX'So0 ^l©$0 i Railway Historical Society of San Di©gn had originally intectied to donate- the proeeeda from e&h® ba??baeue dinner when we bad Santa Fa excursion to Perr:ly In November© The problems chat ; came vp and caused ouiv newspaper pub-* plieC. y to g© end the/la^k | 3uf x’ieient patronage on the trip to make th® trip a financial auecasa* made it r.eacesary to v.;’.® every dime of the profit from the barbecue© E^en with the money hilended for 0dE©TO9 the RHScfSD |lost several hundred dollars© With profits from the recent trip on Marsh we have ;nade go©d out ; d ona - ■.:• ?n. t o 0 o E ©T © r re a sure r ’ Fr e d c 5 has I'nade out a ©heck an.d it has been •• •■> 0oEoTo for use on ny pre thejj see fit to us© it for© RHSftfSD donation was for §X50©00? well needed by OoEoT© a 6 this tim©.; with eo worthy projects at present© F •* ob-U J X.ilV2.zS ^N£L£E The NEWSLETTER of the RORO < ■ .... „ CLUB 0F NEW MEXICO., Itarah -a.-J edi.'ion r-aproduoed the Hating -tie AoTo&SoFoRy,, Co®a Gas»Eleet?ie H-- or Cars,, which appeared in the FUHo iSo.0o Newsletter Number X~1960o Due €i edit was given© e , rr. r-. r. A. C • . J---- . > • • ? Inc., - n e w s l e t t -e ? b 5 MO, MAY* VoSo RAILROADS & THE MAIL •"r^*nUW«*’«MaaM«nitwv*9(t3vAam.vu^eu«»i,rKnMaM*aBc«£MB -»—■.■ It°s now official^ th© velum© of mall handled f©r Ghr1stmas 1959 was a record breaker, up four percent cxw the year before© And according to the Association cf American Railroads, the bulk of the *-t (contained an excellent article ! •:?n_the subject by John Bo McCall© De» ' | alls of construction# acquisitand I ’•pei?a-5Aon of the "doodlebugs” or’ j px-es^lon buggies” are forth© ;■ /•ng from page two> "Now the only oars ? eft in service are M-126 powering ths ' Mxed train from Waynoka, Oklahoma? to ; Buffalo, Oklahoma, l.M-115 and XI-119 in ; •vesarw power); M-118 on th<& mixed from| Harper, Kansas? M-190 and M-122 quitch- ing at Paris p Texason ; more than six billion pieces of mail, /-he most $ver to pass through th© posts i •^ysStom dvMng a holiday period, was car •..•cd hi'^h by '■>::. ■. . railroads© RAILWAY EXPRESS AGENCY U ’ • h the aw . .■<~:”Cjxxc^r J.rryji r— • • A va3 vf the ?ur- XI© Utilities Commissions, 13 branch off ices of RoBoAo in Alameda and Centra Costa Counties will bo discontinued© AX. the services will be handled through the Oakland of fie e o Th © & ons ©3. id c ?; 1 on . i c ©:•: M-3S0 i$ an articulated J$b 1 th’-s-e ?rwks tw© bodies) and originally Md- J?our traction motors developing a 4u.acvivo effort of 50,06.5 pound;. o ’* o o g oK-190 ulgh two of her traoslm 3 removed is still on th® CaM'bbtidNew Mexico, daily pa$s$ngor^ Mat la when -she run@o Her illnesses ax^i becoming chronic| something that0a •ja^.ghb mp with all ©f them - old age©" RoVoDodge i>/ll|/60 peefeed to reduce the opex^-.bi.^g by §32,000 a year© The agency Is veporv - ®d to have (suffered a loss of ho millicc I in 1958© ■ R 6 V o Dod ge b, /31( /60 j Th®re la anoth^?;’ possJv1..- merger of eastern ©oal i haulers in the making0 It is seriously .! considering a marriage with Norfolk &’ ; Westarno SANTA FE On Maroh X, I960 near Baker« sfl.eldj; Califo, a tank txnwk and trailer laden with 7F$G0 gallons of oil w&e driven in front of the Sant* Fe°s eastbound San Francisco Chiefo As a result, 11| lives were lost anc] many passengers and employes injured, and several millions of dollars in equipment and labor were involved© In a pending suit for damages tot aling b-2,000,000 against the trucking compt involved, Santa Fe is alleging nogilg r-^e in the operation ©f the truck whic?h was driven in front of th© irair. without stopping© CONTINUES ON PAGE FOUR (1|) GAINESVILLE MIDLAND will py^aerw nD: of its seven steam locomotives a® follows: 2^10^0 # 209 at Gainesville, 2-10«0 # 203 Athenf . 2-8-0 # 3.16 at Jefferson, 2-10-0 # 208 at Winder, 206 at Stone Mountain^ 2-8^C # 301 at Charlotte and the 2-10-6 ^207 going for scrapo Rail Photo New& RUMOR??? There is talk of L@s Angeles dropping all narrow gauge streetear line® and trackless trolley busses by 19T0o Will standard gauge rapid transit be put ?in ©ur no rail service at all? NEXT REGULAR WORK CAX AT DEL MARo ■-, 0 o., r. u □ o ^Sunday? Way 8gh.? 9; 00AM < Sabta Fe Magazine 3/60 © RoVoDodge li/llj/60 MEFTN(- RAILWAY HISTORICAL SOCIETY of SAN DIE PAGE FOUR MAY© READING The Reading is really having 3. full year of steam trips # 212h is really making the fan happy on hsr many weekend trips© BURLINGTON The famous Pioneer Zephyr * niSJde it3 final run on the 20th of Marcho It la to bo placed In the Museum of Science in Chicago© SOUTHERN PACIFIC The Sunset Limited «^wke,,,u TTurrBw-n.’w j j again require seat reservations effective June 1st© No seat reservation plan failed after leaving passengers standing on state ion platforms© SANTA Calif © Sou© Expresso SANTA FE Continued from column one© .^Kssrvr»->^«=cxx2»#r«xx® z page threeooooooo ult 18 OSte @r damage to the trackage and sig nal and communication facilities© Investigation of the collision and !j tank truck explosion disclosed that the! truck without stopping was driven onto J the track in front of the approaching $ train© This is a violation of the Cal® j ifornia Motor Vehicle Code which re« quires oil tank trucks to jstop no** less than 10 foot from railroad tracks and j further requires that the oil truck must remain standing while any train i$| moving toward the crossing© It was further pointed out that the | train approached the crossing in broad I daylight with whistle blowing ringing? and that the crossing is pr< prescribed running on tected in accordance with standards© The train was schedule5 the weather was visibility unobstructed© The amount asked in the imat@d to cover loss locomotive and train? plans a special "€rafn"*?rom Los Angeles to Chicago fox’ newsmen exhausted from the Democratic convention in L©AO and on their way to the GoOoPo convention in Chicago© The special will be billed as the MDe@om^ pression Special” and will feature the serving of meals at all hours? "escape from telephones and deadlines" and wil make th© run in 39a hours© S-I21L^fi.lEi£ There is still money tc ^■~made In 'She passenger business: UoP© has ordered 20 leg rest coaches from Budd Co© and 25 baggage ©a?s from American Car & Foundry© Mll^yjAUKEE^ROAD features free ©offee 5a©h afternoon on the Olympian Hia« ■ ^0UTHERN„..?AC. IFIC is working on a 3© 16 | n££le line’ ©hang© at Crest ©n the Modoc SOUTHERN PACIFIC Th© California Public ^’no_grade from Xo&50 to X% Utilities Commisloa i a?d ° jto^Qee curves to 3 degree curve; has granted permission to discontinue j Allowaol© opeed will be increased from ths Oakland segments of the Coast .Day- | 00 45 MPHO light and the Lark starting M^.y 2019oG East Bay passengers will bo carried to Third and Townsend station in San Francis©©* thence by bus to Oakland© This will add 20 to 35 minutes to the journey© and bell is pro^ £SL2™J.-ffiSABgaJgQN-RANGE 13 making | repairs on the articulated SOUTHERN PACIFIC COMPANY°S Annual Re® * P02f®F^ ^’be road may ubg* steam ou'l port for 1959~ lists motive power owed:year^ they anticipate 2^091 Diesel l©comotiw units and two ; oporating at full capacity © steam locomotives., # ^„r;rn„..,ns,„ ^a.^- The 13-mile fill across the Great Number 2836 was given Salt- Lake was completed nearly a yeas? j ........ an annual5" in. Decent ahead ©f schedule© It was opened to $ bexj and sent -go_ National Container Corp. traffic the latter part ©f July 1959© ^v;or stationary boiler service© L E T T E R // S?I„WH„SXST0RICAL SOCIETY of SAN DIEGOf Inao- NEWSLETTER # 5-1960 o PAGE WE MAY, FoSoBoCp TRIP The recent rail . ” trip south of tiao oorder on the Ferx^ocarril Shnox*a<» Baja California was somewhat historic in date as was th© Perris trip in Not~ ember of 1959 o It was noted in the Newsletter after the Perris trip that the first paasen^ ger train arrived in Perris on Nov© 15 way back in the 1880°a9 and our train also operated on that basis., ours was the first passenger train to Perris in many yearsalso on Nov© 15tho The March 20th trip on the PoSoBoCo out of Mexicali was of the same naturae In an old 1950 Inter-California train schedule, they show a map of the line and the FoS0B0C© That map0 ©id, shows the SoBoG© end of track just south of j Riito at the wye© It is dated "end of tracks March 20, 1930% Our passenger special covered th© trackage that was at that date completed from Pascual!- tos south to RiitOo The 1950 Inter«>Galifornia schedule has two second ©lacs mixed trains listed on th© PoSoBoCop number 2 and 12, they show the same two trains in the other DEL MAR WORK DAYS Work on cur equip- meat at the fair grounds is under way© 2nd VP Rsx Cvttell is in charge of work on the 101^ 050 and 528O Praoo Tommy Mann says there is paint available for all throe ex hibits © A work party on the second Sunday of Apx>il painted stairs and the railings at the front and cab area of X01|o Some painting was done on the 0£0© Monitors Rex Cuttoll, Dick Pennick, Fred Fizto and Prank Qari in did the w©rk on April loth© THE NEXT REGULAR SUNDAY WORK PARTY WILL BE ON MAY 8th©ooother© will be some additional work dates in May usd Juneq other then the second Sun day© PERRIS AND THE 171 Our San Francisco streetcar on th© O0E0T0 trackage at Perris is in need of ©ora© ©leaning and painting© The change of climate has blistered some ©f th© paint and it should be taken care of as soon as possible© If none of our members in th© San Diego area are free t© got up that way, maybe we can call on some of our members in the direction as trains 1 and s as third class trains, al$o mixed© It was okay going but a little rougher Doming back according to that schedule© MARCH F0S0B0C0 TRIP c-rr. A-.T-.-w—- a-T-rr-?—— I~rr»y. iT^a Sinca th® last trip down south San Bernardino areao Anyone up that way with a little fra® time is welcome to makejwhat ©ver paint repairs are need ed o If paint is purebased for the $0b9' send th® bill in and we will reimburse th® purchaser of such supplieso on the PoSoBoCos we have received soma very strong criticism about the tripo Tbs lack of operating air-conditioning in ths modern 3aj?s„ the dirty conditio; of the old ears added to the trains, efts These ars conditions beyonfl ©us* ©on trol but it is unfortunate that tbs society takes it on the chin when the weather and the Mexican railway equip ment doesn°t work out as well as plan ned o We sponsored the trip so anyone that wasn°t happy about the heat in th- unaireondifcioned care blaiaea uao For the hard ©ore railfan these things ars not su©h a problem but to the average person., they expert near perfect con ditions, PACIFIC ELECTRIC In 19.58s ths PcEoRyo donated their last’ eleatrie locomotives, #1621)9 to the Los Ange3.es Chapters, National Railway His- topical S©sietyo On March313t, 1960^ the HRHS donated the locomotive to the Orange Empire Trolley Museum and the next day the juice-ja@k left its stor age track at the L„AO County Fairgrounds in Pomona for Perris, 162i) arrived at Perris depot on April 2S 1960o The P0E0 straight electric locomotives last saw service in De«erabexa of 1957 o The 1621) is a home-made copy of a standard Baldwin-Westinghouse ataeple ©ah unito * 0oEoTo Traction Gazette Ange3.es MEMBERSKI? ROSTER Last month wo said ■-• we vouXd have a new msmbership list out with this issuso Ow? old members are still renewing and we have had more new members so ws will hold off printing until the end of ths DIESEL DEMONSTRATORS Three big 21i00HP *“ Road Switchers from the American Locomotive G«jo are ©ut doing their stuff for various roads here in the westo The new diesel is the RAILWAY HISTORICAL SOCIETY of SAN DIEGOp Inco « N E W S LET T E R # 5“I960, PAGE SIX ___ .________________ MAY ALCO DL=6i}0? it Is a low profile hood -month in order to get everyone onQ unit© The units hav© boon aeon recentlj Welcome to more new members: on the SoPo and the Santa Feo Mr>0 & Mrso J&o Havlik of bj66 Summit DPo., CIRCUS TRAIN TO ROLL AGAIN< -rr»^n -T—r—-——-■•——.-^F-mc-nLK-^.~irrr-r.-/^z^-_LrrArr-^--k^r»zx>r.7J-Xr7 ———— Me sst, and Mr© & Mrs© Darwyn^Goss of After thr-G^2316 Roark Dr©-> AlhambraCalif© yea??s of | ^TOr“^",'s,’c’,*'rw* owe on down to the MY 2nd meeting of the R0H0S0 of SODO Through the generosity of Bill Kingston owner of the Whistle Stop* we have a very nice railroad book for ths px^ise drawing© The program will be a talk with color slides by our own Dick Dodge© Eric Sanders says they are slides that few of us have ever seen* they deal with streetcars and locomotives© Dick Dodge w5.ll no doubt have a very good commentary to go with them©o©©©so don^t forget the MAY MEETINGand w© will have refreshvnents too© RIDE THS BIG RED CARS Sunday? May 15 pig60 will b0 the day for a special run down the old Pacific Electric lino to Long Beach© S&cursion Dii’ector Wally Duthlo has it all sot up for another ride on the big x^ed oars© We go to Los Angeles is our own special resor-vod car on the Santa Fe San Dieganp .leaving at 6 s 30AM and re~ turning at 8s30PM© A full day of rail~ road?,ng behind elootr^c power© Thrill to the swift ride behind some of the 5 Santa Fg°s big powerful °self contain ed electric locomotives” and have a ride on P©E© e?lectric power© SEE THE BROCHURE ATTACHEDy ORDER YOUR TICKETS© TODAY, ROW., SOON© RAILWAY HISTORICAL SOCIETY OF SAN D-TSGO, INCO ANNOUNCES A DAY OF RAILROADIN ON SANTA FE AND METROPOLITAN TRANSIT AUTHORITY ELECTRIC TRAINS'— . SUNDAY. MAY >5*t.ho I960 - 8? 30 AoM» t© 8s30 P.MO LEAVE SAN DIEGO- SANTA FE TRA '?? #73 Arrive Los Angeles Uni&n Depof, LEAVE 6 th & MAIN, LOS ANGELES Arrive Long Beach (Approximate) LEAVE LONG BEACH for return trip Arrive LAOS) Sixth & Main Terminal (Dinner at Harvey House, LOAO' LEAVE LOS ANGELES via SANTA PE Arrive San Diego via Santa. Fe 5s ^5 P©Mn 8230 P0M0 8:3G AoMo A o M o X2sO5 PnM. 2 s GO PoMo 3:20 P OM its GO ?©Mo (Daylight Saving Time) (Take special bus) SPECIAL POE© TRAIN NON-STOP RUN TO LJU (take special to) Train # 76 Travel on the former PACIFIC ELECTRIC (now operated by Metropolitan Transit Authority) from Loa AngeJ.es r«o Long Beach and return© This electric line may soon be abandoned, donflt miss having a ride on the system that at one time was the- worlds largest Interurban railway© We reach Loa Angele® from San Diego via the smooth modern electric locomotives of the Santa P©o Se f ••.■.■■-. c. ? .;.•?••■■ ■;. the head end of# our Budd light-weight train, CUR OWN PRIVATE CAR TOO© Santa Fe has converted entirely from steam power to this new form of electric drive, the power is supplied from an ©elf ©ontalxwd diesel generator, located in each unit, supplying the electrical energy for the traction motors© TICKETS FROM: RAILWAY HISTORICAL SOCIETY OF SAN DIEGO. INC PoOo BOX 93.51,; SAN DIEGO % CALIFORNIA ROUNDTRIP FROM SAN DIEGO? $ 10©50 Uneludes Sa^ta Fe and POEO) Roundtrip from LOAO: $ 3©5O (POEO portion only) (trip limited, first come- first served, o

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